14:24:57 [MissParker] There's a new idea over at Fox for the campaign....another kind of red notebook project...

14:25:12 [krisrussel] yeah, I just read the mail...

14:29:55 [krisrussel] quickly looked at the sci-fi letter... looks good at first glance...

14:30:33 [MissParker] ok kris, thanks....i think so too

14:30:54 [MissParker] no news on the sims yet...

14:32:21 [MissParker] I did post an agenda...at CPF...brb

14:42:02 [MissParker] btw, have you had a chance to discuss the chat setup over at the campaign site...or are you waiting for the launch to finalise details to set that up?

14:42:23 [MissParker] I was just wondering ...

14:42:40 [MissParker] right...the agenda

14:43:23 [MrZenith] not yet.

14:43:53 [MissParker] not yet...because you're waiting for the launch or not yet because of other reasons?

14:44:32 [MissParker] Agenda 1) Sim updates

14:44:42 [MissParker] 2) Letters (Fox, Scifi)

14:44:52 [MissParker] 3) DIGG.com

14:44:58 [MissParker] 4) LJ login

14:45:05 [MissParker] 5) GGL send off

14:45:21 [MissParker] 6) Bulletins & other projects

14:45:51 [MissParker] we've already done #1 ... no news..

14:46:03 [MissParker] So next is #2

14:46:25 [MissParker] Thanks for sending the sci fi letter to me Ruben! It's now been sent to the group: FrustratedTpFans

14:46:44 [MissParker] I think I will post it to Fox forum as well...

14:47:07 [krisrussel] the letter to sci-fi I read is good... some typo's and I'll read it better tomorrow when I'm more awake and post my thoughts...

14:47:08 [MissParker] yeah kris...it's been a while...let's hope they're ok!

14:47:16 [MrZenith] because not yet.

14:47:38 [MissParker] ok on the letter kris

14:47:43 [MissParker] ok Z!

14:48:10 [Ruben20] Will http://www.campaign.pretendercentre.com be our headquarters from now on?

14:49:34 [krisrussel] I think Fox will stay our HQ until it's no more... I think...

14:49:58 [MissParker] Not yet Ruben...it's not been launched officially

14:50:02 [Ruben20] And after?

14:50:28 [Ruben20] I see. But when it's launched officially?

14:50:38 [MissParker] And yeah...we are trying to stay over at Fox, but we will have the campaign site as well, things will be discussed in detail there, and copied over to Fox...

14:52:23 [MissParker] we'll always stay with Fox as long as the forum is not readonly because we want to impress the PTB and also because we encourage fans to go there, so we have to keep posting to let them know what's what....even if we have the campaign site as our main campaign HQ

14:53:54 [Ruben20] I'm troubled, though i'll admit i haven't payed much attention to the happenings once we got the message that the Fox forum was going down. Didn't we agree to one place we'd head over to once the forum closes (when it closes)?

14:53:59 [MissParker] so next on the agenda...other Sci-fi letters...you can use Ruben's to help guide you...it was sent through FrustratedTpFans...or create your own...but we need volunteers to send the daily email to Sci fi too

14:54:43 [MissParker] Any replies from Fox by any chance?

14:55:46 [krisrussel] not that I know of

14:56:30 [MissParker] I think we sorta did...it's PretenderCentre I guess...because it was either there or the old campaign mb which will soon be non-existent to be replaced by the new campaign site and board...

14:56:37 [MissParker] why are you troubled?

14:57:32 [MissParker] campaign.pretendercentre.com the new campaign site is a part of pretendercentre.com so the forum there will be linked from the new campaign site...

14:58:15 [Ruben20] Ah, i see. Didn't know that (shame on me). I thought it was two completley separate forums.

14:58:36 [MissParker]  it's ok...we forgive you!

14:59:01 [Ruben20] Good, good. Back to Fox. What are we going to do?

14:59:25 [MissParker] re letters you mean?

14:59:39 [MissParker] or an address?

14:59:41 [Ruben20] Yes, ma'am

15:00:39 [MissParker] Re: address...someone is going to have to call so we can get an address if we don't get any replies by the time we have sent the GGL around the world...

15:01:09 [MissParker] Although...we actually do have quite a bit of time to play with...

15:02:04 [Ruben20] As long as we have time, it's okay. We still have some new adresses to send to. Has anyone here sent theirs?

15:02:35 [krisrussel] no, don't have a SASE

15:02:54 [MissParker] I am still waiting for a SASE...but Q should have sent hers...Q?

15:03:28 [MissParker] I think I was supposed to email mattali about sending us a SASE...but she's just as busy as Melissa...maybe Q can send us one!

15:03:53 [MissParker] Q, what do you think?

15:04:00 [krisrussel] good idea :^)

15:04:04 [MrZenith] Q haven't done anything.

15:04:05 [Ruben20] I'm also waiting. Who else besides us received an adress to send to (don't remember how many i found...)?

15:04:42 [MissParker] I think redneterp has an NBC address she was going to try...

15:04:58 [MissParker] actually if we could get hold of her red could probably help with the SASEs

15:05:18 [MissParker] but she hasn't been around for a while...i should pm her at cpf or something...

15:13:59 [MissParker] ok next on the agenda...

15:14:10 [MissParker] Digg

15:14:11 [krisrussel] yes

15:14:30 [krisrussel] I dugg it ;^)

15:14:42 [MissParker] yay to all the Digg'ers!

15:14:43 [Ruben20] I received your invitation to Digg, MissParker (i'm already registered). Anyone else register?

15:16:19 [MissParker] Everyone is registered....but someone here did not digg...

15:16:19 [krisrussel] yup

15:16:31 [krisrussel] noooooo... who??

15:17:08 [MissParker] Q!!!

15:17:21 [Quibus] I did!

15:18:06 [krisrussel] prove it!

15:18:33 [Quibus] kinda busy at the moment'

15:20:31 [MissParker] must have been recent

15:21:01 [Quibus] sunday

15:22:40 [MissParker] ok...not

15:22:52 [MissParker] Quibus: Last Dugg: <no stories dugg yet>

15:23:20 [Quibus] I posted a comment

15:24:19 [MissParker] ok....but you have to digg

15:24:31 [krisrussel] yeah, but you have to digg it

15:24:55 [MissParker] click the "digg it" link below the # of diggs

15:25:09 [Quibus] I thought that was digging it

15:38:24 [MissParker] Q: go to Digg.com, make sure you're logged in then open this link: http://www.digg.com/television/Save_The_Pretender

15:38:59 [MissParker] then click the "digg it" link

15:39:27 [MissParker] if you click on who dugg or blogged you'll see you are not listed there......

15:39:39 [MissParker] ok...next on the agenda..

15:39:50 [MissParker] LJ login

15:40:14 [MissParker] well, it's Q's turn, but she's busy at the moment, so I guess we can remind her on Thursday...

15:40:31 [MissParker] next: GGL send off

15:41:44 [krisrussel] I did a quick login...

15:41:47 [MissParker] ok Z

15:41:52 [MissParker] thanks kris!

15:43:44 [MissParker] As soon as the sims reach South Africa and Portugal, they will have intersected...

15:43:46 [krisrussel] yw

15:44:00 [krisrussel] cool

15:44:24 [MissParker] so we could, as planned, order the real thing and start the send off...i need to confirm with ravengurl though...to make sure she is not too busy to handle it...

15:44:37 [MissParker] i was thinking we need to do a press release for it too....

15:44:47 [MissParker] and we could submit that to Digg as well...

15:45:03 [krisrussel] good idea

15:45:48 [MissParker] most importantly, all new people will have to send signatures to ravengurl or to kris...they could send to ravengurl until she sends it off...then send to kris

15:46:38 [MissParker] i.e. newbies cannot sign directly/handle the real GGL unless they're like mattali and are meeting up with an established participant

15:47:41 [MissParker] We could start a special page for the real GGL...when it launches...and submit a link to that for Digg'ing...or do the press release...

15:48:20 [MissParker] We need to clean up the GGL frappr..i think there are some people on there who are not participating....

15:49:14 [MissParker] Since we are all members of Digg now, I hope to be able to delegate the "Digg submission" to someone else...of course, I will help with the actual text for the submission if necessary...not that mine was perfect!

15:49:53 [MissParker] I just don't want to be the only one submitting Pretender related stuff to be "dugg"

15:50:44 [Quibus] dugg

15:51:06 [MissParker] I think 16 is a paltry number of Diggers...I wonder where the rest of the people are! I posted this at several forums...yay Q!!!

15:51:21 [MissParker] 17 diggs!

15:51:24 [krisrussel] people are lazy

15:51:28 [MissParker] great!

15:51:42 [Quibus] not quite so paltry now?

15:51:44 [MissParker] I guess so kris...but how do they expect to get anything done?

15:51:52 [MissParker] yeah Q!

15:52:17 [Quibus] sorry I didn't do it earlier. didn't know there was that button.

15:52:22 [MissParker] I was looking at another article submitted a day later than mine...it had over 800 diggs!

15:52:35 [MissParker] It's ok Q...it happens...

15:52:57 [MissParker] I knew I'd eventually get you to Digg it...it's the other fans out there I'm really concerned about!

15:53:20 [Quibus] well, good luck with them!

15:53:45 [MissParker] lol

15:55:13 [MissParker] ty

15:55:23 [krisrussel] maybe they don't like the fact that they have to register?

15:55:31 [MissParker] next: Bulletins

15:56:09 [MissParker] Probably kris...but it's all relative you know...I hate signing up for new sites...but if I have to do it for the sake of the campaign, I just do it...

15:56:39 [MissParker] Right...it's a new month, which means new Bulletins...people please try and post some for this month!

15:56:47 [krisrussel] I know... same for me...

15:56:56 [MissParker] don't forget the myspace option if you're not afraid of myspace like some people!!

15:57:02 [krisrussel] I will try

15:57:29 [Quibus] I'm not afraid, I just hate it.

15:57:39 [MissParker] yeah kris...I can totally understand...but at least you try and do what needs to be done...we need more fans to have that attitude...or maybe they don't know how to ... are not as net savvy...? Then they should just ask!

15:57:50 [MissParker] Oh..ok Q!

15:59:46 [krisrussel] yup, asking never hurt anyone...

16:00:56 [MissParker] exactly kris!

16:03:06 [MissParker] so...can you guys do some bulletins...take some time off your busy schedules to print up a sheet...?

16:03:54 [Quibus] I've seen no bulletin boards in town.

16:04:47 [MrZenith] I know for a fact that we don't have any bulletinboards around here.

16:05:25 [krisrussel] same problem here

16:08:21 [MissParker] Have you checked the libraries?

16:08:43 [MissParker] If there are none there, then myspace is your last chance!

16:09:17 [MissParker] Anyway, to move on...time's running out...there's a new project being discussed....wandering red notebooks project

16:10:28 [MissParker] be interesting: describe for me the save the pretender video...

16:10:30 [krisrussel] yup, glanced at the mail

16:10:40 [MissParker] i need a blurb to submit it somewhere else...

16:12:54 [MissParker] Z or Q have you read about the new project?

16:13:40 [Quibus] that depends.

16:14:00 [MrZenith] Z has not done that, no.

16:14:13 [MissParker] it was posted to the campaign group ...

16:15:11 [MissParker] Jumping back to Digg: I think the frightening low # of diggs could be blamed on my poor "marketing" in the blurb....so I need something more "interesting" to submit it to Plime.com...

16:17:29 [MissParker] any takers?

16:18:43 [MissParker] Well, in a nutshell the new project is related to the website http://www.bookcrossing.com so we should probably check it out...

16:18:51 [krisrussel] what's plime.com??

16:19:35 [MissParker] [Bookcrossing.com] that's where the idea was spawned...apparently people there leave books they don't want all over the place, put instructions in them to direct people to the website and the book is tracked that way...

16:19:45 [MissParker] plime is a version of digg

16:20:08 [krisrussel] ah

16:20:34 [MissParker] idea with rednotebooks is to: to make little red notebooks and release them into the wild!

16:20:43 [MissParker] use book crossing to track them

16:20:53 [MissParker] the notebook can be printouts of pictures and whatever of The Pretender explaining our mission to save it.

16:21:04 [MissParker] it is key to include two pieces of information.

16:21:12 [MissParker] Firstly, to sell it to people who may not know or care about the show

16:21:22 [MissParker] explain that it is wholesome and gripping...

16:21:28 [MissParker] Secondly, that we are NOT a lost cause, there is a network interested in picking it back up again

16:21:34 [MissParker] they just need proof of a big enough fan base to do it

16:21:40 [MissParker] So that people feel like they will actually make a difference not just a waste of time

16:22:01 [MissParker] We could put in the big sell like 'Right now thousands of rednote books just like this one are being released

16:22:07 [MissParker] all over the world to send the message that we want more of The Pretender and other shows like it

16:22:15 [MissParker] Be a part of the movement!' We would then write down links inside to the different petitions to sign, and then they release the notebook themselves.

16:23:19 [krisrussel] cool :^)

16:23:36 [MissParker] At Bookcrossing, they give books unique ids: BCIDs which are then used to track the books

16:23:44 [Quibus] sounds like a good idea

16:24:47 [krisrussel] yup indeed

16:25:31 [MissParker] I thought so too...am joining bookcrossing now...

16:25:35 [MrZenith] yeah.

16:25:48 [MissParker] can't find a username...MissParker is taken!

16:25:59 [krisrussel] oh no

16:26:29 [MissParker] Looks like a pretty big site...

16:26:35 [MissParker] any suggestions for a name?

16:26:58 [krisrussel] MsParker

16:27:11 [krisrussel] IceQueen

16:27:18 [krisrussel] DragonLady

16:27:51 [krisrussel] CentreBitch

16:27:56 [krisrussel] ;^)

16:28:46 [MissParker] lol

16:29:16 [MissParker] IceQueen is kinda cool...but I decided to go with the same one I use at Fox...probably shouldn't have...but thanks for the suggestions!

16:29:40 [krisrussel] yw ;^)

16:30:52 [MissParker] http://bookcrossing.com/friend/missparkr join!

16:33:52 [MissParker] So what do you all think about the idea...should we go with bookcrossing as the tracking, or set up a separate site?

16:37:06 [MissParker] Congratulations! You've successfully registered a book in the BookCrossing.com system. Your new and unique BCID number is above.

16:37:14 [MissParker] BCID: 068-5354272

16:37:22 [krisrussel] dunno yet... have to check out the bookcrossing site first

16:41:03 [krisrussel] cool entry :^)

16:41:32 [MissParker] Well, I did a first registration to make sure it was possible to register our red notebooks...and it works fine...although actually there are labels that we can print, (that would have a pre-set ID) even before registering the book, so we could go that route too...

16:41:37 [MissParker] thanks kris!

16:42:22 [krisrussel] seems like a cool site...

16:42:52 [MissParker] ok think about the project and we'll talk some more at next chat...

16:43:18 [MissParker] we need volunteers

16:43:33 [MissParker] at least one for each country I think...

16:43:56 [MrZenith] I can sense that I just volunteered for Sweden...

16:44:10 [MissParker] lol

16:44:11 [krisrussel] I volunteer for Belgium ;^)

16:44:17 [MissParker] He's so smart!

16:44:21 [MissParker] yay kris!

16:44:24 [MissParker] yay Z!

16:46:54 [MissParker] Ok, we shall adjourn now..don't forget your bulletins...and be prepared to start working on red notebooks to release into the wild!

16:48:17 [MrZenith] yeah.

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